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BMW X5 Used Car Review

BMW's reputation for building engaging driver's cars meant it probably shouldn't have been a surprise when it set the standard for SUV handling with its first effort, the 2000 X5. Over two successive generations, it has grown in size, added a third-row option (since 2007), and introduced a rear-wheel-drive variant (since 2013). One of BMW's biggest-selling models, the X5 range covers a broad spectrum of engines including an eco-focused hybrid and performance-biased M model.

Pros

Cons

  • One of the best SUVs to drive in terms of handling
  • Wide range of engines from economical 4-cylinder diesel to powerful V8
  • Cabin and boot space further enlarged with third generation (2013 on)
  • Intuitive and smartly presented iDrive infotainment system
  • Latest X5 doesn't ride or steer as well as previous generations
  • Interior has improved though has yet to set any segment benchmark
  • Limited boot space with seven-seater option
  • Bulkier, US-focused styling of current model
This is general information and should not be relied on as purchasing advice.
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Top2002 BMW X5 3.0i RWC REGO AUTO 180,000kms

  • 187877 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

πŸ†πŸ”₯ 2002 BMW X5 3.0i RWC AUTOπŸ”₯πŸ† Current (RWC) & QLD Registration πŸ‘‰ 4 Door Automatic 5 Seater Wagon πŸ‘‰ Comes With Current Roadworthy Certificate and QLD registration till 11/04/2024. βœ… Super Low 187,877kms Great Car, Roof Racks, Alloy Wheels, Cruise Control, CD Player, Drives Great, Super Reliable. πŸ‘‰ Drives Excellent βœ”οΈβœ”οΈβœ”οΈβœ”οΈ. πŸ‘‰ Good Engine a

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Arundel, QLD

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Top2022 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Blue 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 7604 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Experience luxury and style in the BMW X5 xDrive 30d with M Sport. Presented in Phytonic Blue Metallic Paint matched with BMW Vernasca Leather Upholstery and 22" M Alloy Wheels, every detail of the X5 has been carefully crafted to create a truly premium driving experience. From its powerful engine to its advanced technology and safety features, this SUV has everything you need to make your family's journeys more comfortable and enjoyable than ever before. Key Features include: - 22 inch M Al

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Geelong, VIC

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02/05/2024

Top2017 BMW X5 F15 xDrive30d White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 99570 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

FULL BMW SERVICE HISTORY M SPORT PACKS TWO KEYS PANORAMIC SUNROOF 7 SEATER One Year Warranty Included in Drive Away Price Excellent Body and Interior for the Age of vehicle we are still operating as per usual with all mechanics open to prepare sold vehicle, all sold cars are transferred instantly online with no delays. We are practising a safe working environment with social distancing a requirement also disinfecting all vehicles. Thank you for your understanding. 25 MINUTES FROM CBD TOWA

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Mordialloc, VIC

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02/05/2024

Top2015 BMW X5 F15 xDrive30d Alpine White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 84967 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

2015 BMW X5 F15 xDrive30d Alpine White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

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02/05/2024

Top2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d M Sport Black Sports Automatic SUV

  • 1500 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Factory Options fitted Panorama glass roof M Interior trim finishers Carbon Fibre Packages fitted M Sport package Adaptive M Suspension M leather steering wheel M Aerodynamics package M High-Gloss Shadow Line M headliner anthracite M Sport Package Pro $3,000 M Sport Exhaust system M Sport brake, red high-gloss M Lights Shadow Line M seat belts M High-Gloss Shadow Line with extended contents Comfort package Cupholder, temperate Seat heating front and rear Heat Comfort package front Comfort Pac

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

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03/05/2024

Top2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d M Sport Black Sports Automatic SUV

  • 1500 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Factory Options fitted Trailer tow hitch Panorama glass roof Black Sapphire metallic Packages fitted M Sport package 20" M Lt/Aly wheels Star-spoke 740 M Bicolour / MT, runflat tyres Adaptive M Suspension M leather steering wheel M Aerodynamics package M High-Gloss Shadow Line M headliner anthracite Verino Black We are located in Rushcutters Bay, only 5 minutes from the Sydney CBD. Our ultra-luxe and state-of-the-art showroom showcases specialist BMW models including BMW i electro-mobility

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

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03/05/2024

2024 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d M Sport Black Sports Automatic SUV

  • 1500 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Factory Options fitted Panorama glass roof 3rd row seats Packages fitted M Sport package M leather steering wheel M Aerodynamics package M High-Gloss Shadow Line M headliner anthracite Verino Black Enhancement Package 22" M Lt/Aly wheels Double-spoke 742 M Bicolour / MT Tyre Pressure Monitor Glass application CraftedClarity for interior elements Harman Kardon surround sound system We are located in Rushcutters Bay, only 5 minutes from the Sydney CBD. Our ultra-luxe and state-of-the-art sho

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

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3 hours ago

2019 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 107304 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

2019 BMW X5 loaded with fantastic options including a Full Service History, M Sport, Panoramic Sunroof, Blind Spot Monitoring, 360 View Camera, Bi Xenon Headlights, Digital Cockpit, Heads Up Display, Towbar, Split Electronic Tailgate and so much more. Located on the Sunshine Coast, our dealership has over 25 years of clients Driving Away Happy. Experience how easy purchasing a vehicle can be. We can arrange to have your selected vehicle brought to your home or office. Enquire now and one

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Maroochydore, QLD

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6 hours ago

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Phytonic Blue 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 7502 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Phytonic Blue 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

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7 hours ago

2020 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Grey 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 62365 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

*** 2020 BMW X5 xDrive30d M Sport G05 AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY *** OPTIONS & FEATURES INCLUDE - 1 OWNER , OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE OF A G05 BMW X5 - PREMIUM METALLIC GREY PAINT - FULL BMW SERVICE HISTORY , 2 X KEYS , JUST FRESHLY SERVICED! - M SPORT PACKAGE , DUAL PANEL SUNROOF , HEATED SEATS , DIGITAL DASHBOARD , WIRELESS PHONE CHARGING PAD , FULLY OPTIONED! - WIRELESS APPLE CARPLAY & ANDROID AUTO - MASSAGE & MEMORY SEATS - 360 REVERSE CAMERA! - AND LOADS MORE

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Ferntree Gully, VIC

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8 hours ago

2004 BMW X5 E53 MY04 Steptronic Black 5 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 280000 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Looking for a powerful and luxurious ride? Check out this sleek 2004 BMW X5 E53 Wagon, priced at $8,999.00 AUD. With a 3.0i engine, 4x4 capability, and a stylish black exterior, this vehicle is sure to turn heads on the road. This BMW X5 is packed with features to enhance your driving experience, including 17" alloy wheels, climate control air conditioning, cruise control, leather trim, and a multi-function steering wheel. Safety is a top priority with ABS, airbags, traction control, and more.

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North Geelong, VIC

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9 hours ago

2018 BMW X5 F15 xDrive30d Mineral White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 117503 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Dealership located on the NSW & VIC border in the Riverina areaBMW authorised dealer Only 3 hours from Melbourne CBD BMW premium certified vehicle BMW financial services available 360-dregree technical and optical check Minimum 24 months roadside assistance and accident management Verified service history Use of genuine BMW part and accessories

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Lavington, NSW

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11 hours ago

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Grey 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 5200 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Experience luxury and style in the New LCI BMW X5 xDrive 30d M Sport. Presented in Skyscaper Grey Metallic Paint matched with BMW Verino Leather Upholstery and 22" M Alloy Wheels, every detail of the new X5 has been carefully crafted to create a truly premium driving experience. From its powerful engine to its advanced technology and safety features, this SUV has everything you need to make your family's journeys more comfortable and enjoyable than ever before. Key Features include: - 22 in

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Geelong West, VIC

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13 hours ago

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Black 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 2000 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Experience luxury and style in the BMW X5 xDrive 30d LCI with M Sport. Presented in Black Sapphire Metallic Paint matched with BMW Black Verino Upholstery and 20" M Alloy Wheels. Every detail of the X5 has been carefully crafted to create a truly premium driving experience, from its powerful engine to its advanced technology and safety features, this SUV has everything you need to make your family's journeys more comfortable and enjoyable than ever before. Key Features include: - 20 inch M D

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Geelong West, VIC

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13 hours ago

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive40i Steptronic M Sport Grey 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 5100 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Experience luxury and style in the BMW X5 xDrive 40i LCI with M Sport. Presented in Brooklyn Grey Metallic Paint matched with BMW Black Verino Upholstery and 22" M Alloy Wheels. Every detail of the X5 has been carefully crafted to create a truly premium driving experience, from its powerful engine to its advanced technology and safety features, this SUV has everything you need to make your family's journeys more comfortable and enjoyable than ever before. Factory Option Packages fitted : - E

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Geelong West, VIC

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13 hours ago

2019 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Alpine White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 89572 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Dealership located on the NSW & VIC border in the Riverina area BMW authorised dealer Only 3 hours from Melbourne CBD BMW premium certified vehicle BMW financial services available 360-dregree technical and optical check Minimum 24 months roadside assistance and accident management Verified service history Use of genuine BMW part and accessories

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Lavington, NSW

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13 hours ago

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 2000 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Experience luxury and style in the new LCI BMW X5 xDrive 30d M Sport. Presented in Mineral White Metallic Paint matched with BMW Leather Upholstery and 22" M Alloy Wheels, every detail of the new X5 has been carefully crafted to create a truly premium driving experience. From its powerful engine to its advanced technology and safety features, this SUV has everything you need to make your family's journeys more comfortable and enjoyable than ever before. Packages Fitted : - M SPORT PACKAGE

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Geelong West, VIC

Dealer demo
13 hours ago

2012 BMW X5 E70 MY12 xDrive30d Grey Semi Auto Wagon

  • 180954 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

MBM are pleased to be selling this well maintained MY12 BMW X5 turbo diesel 7 seater with M Sport Kit and innovation pack. 20' M Sport alloys, Beige leather interior with log book service history. 6 Cylinder Automatic Dual Front Airbags Package Anti-lock Braking Auto Climate Control with Dual Temp Zones 20 Inch Alloy Wheels Brake Assist Cruise Control Central Locking Remote Control Dynamic Stability Control Dusk Sensing Headlights Electronic Brake Force Distribution Fog Lights - Front Head Air

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Caboolture South, QLD

Dealer used
13 hours ago

2012 BMW X5 E70 MY12.5 xDrive30d Steptronic Black 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 96898 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Located in close proximity to Brisbane city; we are Brisbane's premier used vehicle specialists. Stocking only high quality pre-loved vehicles which have all been comprehensively checked by our trained technicians to offer you hassle free buying and worry free motoring. We offer no deposit finance and leasing options to suit your needs. You also have the option to protect your investment by selecting a Vehicle Safeguard plan with options ranging from 12 months to 36 months. All safeguard plans

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Nundah, QLD

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14 hours ago

2020 BMW X5 G05 xDrive45e Steptronic M Sport Phytonic Blue 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon Hybrid

  • 73477 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

** FREE SERVICING UNTIL 04/2025 / 80,000KM INCLUDED UPGRADE TO 04/2027 / 100,000KM FOR $760! ** 2 YEARS BMW ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE INCLUDED ** EXTENDED WARRANTY OPTIONS AVAILABLE ONE-OWNER VEHICLE WITH FULL HISTORY AT OUR NORTH QLD BMW DEALERSHIP! WE ARE A LARGE, CUSTOMER-EXPERIENCE FOCUSED DEALERSHIP - ASK US ABOUT DELIVERY & REGISTRATION AUSTRALIA-WIDE & GENUINE HISTORY OF ALL VEHCILES WE STOCK. ------* FACTORY OPTIONS ADDED TO THIS VEHICLE *------ * Integral Active Steering

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Hyde Park, QLD

Dealer used
03/05/2024

2023 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Grey 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 3336 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

BUY WITH CONFIDENCE WITH AFFORDABLE FINANCE PACKAGES & WARRANTY OPTIONS AVAILABLE. Located 15 minutes from Melbourne in the eastern suburbs. One of Australia?s largest Pre-Owned Vehicle Sites with over 55 years of experience and operation this Family-Owned business has a large range of quality pre-owned vehicles and 2 on-site valuers to ensure we get the best price for your trade in. Interstate purchases welcome, we?ll help and guide with transportation or arrange a permit if you want to dr

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Burwood, VIC

Dealer used
03/05/2024

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d M Sport Grey Sports Automatic SUV

  • 1504 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Factory Options fitted Panorama glass roof Packages fitted M Sport package Adaptive M Suspension M leather steering wheel M Aerodynamics package M High-Gloss Shadow Line M headliner anthracite Verino Black Enhancement Package 22" M Lt/Aly wheels Double-spoke 742 M Bicolour / MT Tyre Pressure Monitor Glass application CraftedClarity for interior elements Harman Kardon surround sound system We are located in Rushcutters Bay, only 5 minutes from the Sydney CBD. Our ultra-luxe and state-of-the-

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

Dealer demo
03/05/2024

2018 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic Mineral White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 78585 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

2018 BMW X5 G05 xDrive30d Steptronic Mineral White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

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Lavington, NSW

Dealer used
03/05/2024

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d M Sport Black Sports Automatic SUV

  • 1500 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Factory Options fitted Panorama glass roof M Interior trim finishers Carbon Fibre Packages fitted M Sport package Adaptive M Suspension M leather steering wheel M Aerodynamics package M High-Gloss Shadow Line M headliner anthracite M Sport Package Pro $3,000 M Sport Exhaust system M Sport brake, red high-gloss M Lights Shadow Line M seat belts M High-Gloss Shadow Line with extended contents Comfort package Cupholder, temperate Seat heating front and rear Heat Comfort package front Comfort Pac

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

Dealer demo
03/05/2024

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d M Sport Black Sports Automatic SUV

  • 1500 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Factory Options fitted Trailer tow hitch Panorama glass roof Black Sapphire metallic Packages fitted M Sport package 20" M Lt/Aly wheels Star-spoke 740 M Bicolour / MT, runflat tyres Adaptive M Suspension M leather steering wheel M Aerodynamics package M High-Gloss Shadow Line M headliner anthracite Verino Black We are located in Rushcutters Bay, only 5 minutes from the Sydney CBD. Our ultra-luxe and state-of-the-art showroom showcases specialist BMW models including BMW i electro-mobility

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Rushcutters Bay, NSW

Dealer demo
03/05/2024

2014 BMW X5 xDRIVE30d

  • 94878 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Best Buy - 7 Seater - Easy Finance Looking for the ultimate family car? Look no further than this rare 7-seater BMW X5 xDRIVE30d. This highly optioned beauty comes with a complete service history and is a genuine one owner vehicle. With features like a panoramic sunroof, heated front seats, and adaptive damping control, this 2014 model is sure to impress. The sleek black exterior paired with a luxurious black interior makes for a stunning combination. Equipped with a 3.0L diesel turbo engi

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Melbourne CBD, VIC

Dealer used
03/05/2024

2017 BMW X5 F15 xDrive30d Grey Semi Auto Wagon

  • 74373 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

2017 X5 TURBO DIESEL M-SPORT PACKED WITH FACTORY OPTIONS! * 3 YEAR/100,000KM AUSTRALIA WIDE WARRANTY! * INSTANT FINANCE, BEST RATES AVAILABLE, DRIVE AWAY TODAY! . This is the right one! The paintwork is immaculate and the interior is spotless. . Low 74,000KM. It has a full up to date service history with BMW. . FACTORY OPTIONED WITH: . M-SPORT PACKAGE - 20 Wide Wheel Package - Body Coloured Flares - Aerodynamics Package - Black Headlining - M-Sport Steering Wheel - Gear Shift Paddles - Sports

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Eagle Farm, QLD

Dealer used
03/05/2024

2007 BMW X5 E70 3.0D Gold 6 Speed Auto Steptronic Wagon

  • 257055 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Service history 2 keys Push start Alloys Driving lights LED ring lights Sidesteps Leather trim Upgraded android head unit Electric handbrake Bluetooth Cruise control WESTCITY 4X4 452/454 GEELONG ROAD WEST FOOTSCRAY VIC 3012 PH******2000 MOB: TRADING HOURS: MONDAY TO SATURDAYS 9.00AM TO 5.00PM SUNDAYS 10AM - 3PM OR BY APPOINTMENT "RWC SUPPLIED" LOOKS AND DRIVES GREAT ANY TEST DRIVES & INSPECTIONS ARE WELCOME LOTS OF EXTRAS GUARANTEED TO IMPRESS WE HAVE OVER 100 CARS IN STOCK,

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West Footscray, VIC

Dealer used
03/05/2024

2023 BMW X5 G05 LCI xDrive30d Steptronic M Sport Alpine White 8 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 1588 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Experience the ultimate new car buying experience at Adelaides largest and most established BMW location on West Terrace in the Adelaide CBD. Adelaide BMWs iconic West Terrace facility is home to the largest selection of new and demonstrator vehicles in South Australia, our service/parts departments are both conveniently located on-site with ample off-street guest parking. In addition, our brand-new second BMW site is now open at Medindie (1 Main North Road) showcasing the best in Certified Pre

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Adelaide CBD, SA

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03/05/2024

2013 BMW X5 E70 MY12 xDrive 30d M Sport L.E. Black 8 Speed Automatic Sequential Wagon

  • 257743 km
  • SUV
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

All Vehicles sold with Current Registration, All stamp duty and Govt charges included, Current RWC, Clear PPSR Finance Manager onsite with Access to over 30 Lenders Can quote payments over the phone No Deposit Good/Bad Credit Lowest, Bank-Beating Rates Employed or Self Employed Best Car Loan Options Australia Wide We are very proud of our facebook reviews and have over 33000 followers who enjoy our posts

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Underwood, QLD

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Overview of the Bmw X5

Overview of the Bmw X5

BMW's reputation for building engaging driver's cars meant it probably shouldn't have been a surprise when it set the standard for SUV handling with its first effort, the 2000 X5.

Over two successive generations, it has grown in size, added a third-row option (since 2007), and introduced a rear-wheel-drive variant (since 2013).

One of BMW's biggest-selling models, the X5 range covers a broad spectrum of engines including an eco-focused hybrid and performance-biased M model.

BMW X5 GENERATIONS (SINCE 2000)

2000-2007

2007-2013

2013 onwards

RUNNING COSTS

Fuel Consumption (current model)

Hybrid: 3.4 litres per 100km

2.0L 4-cylinder turbo diesel: 5.5 to 6.0 litres per 100km

3.0L 6-cylinder turbo diesel: 6.2 to 6.3 litres per 100km

3.0L 6-cylinder tri-turbo diesel: 6.7 litres per 100km

3.0L 6-cylinder turbo: 5.5 litres per 100km

4.4L V8: 10.5 litres per 100km

4.4L V8 twin-turbo: 11.1 litres per 100km

= Highly economical.

= Good economy.

= Average fuel use.

= Heavy consumption.

Servicing

SIMILAR MODELS TO BMW X5

WHAT TO LOOK OUT FOR: BMW X5 (2013 ONWARDS)

Like any quasi off-roader, the X5 needs a close check to make sure it hasn't been driven in inappropriate terrain.

Luckily, most of them were used as family cars, and that's the one you want to buy provided the interior hasn't been trashed by kids, dogs and mountain bikes.

Mechanically, the big thing to watch out for is an engine that has experienced patchy maintenance.

The VANOS variable valve-timing arrangement in the engine is one of the things that gives the X5 its performance, though skipped oil changes can lead to dirty oil that will clog the delicate little oilways that operate the system.

If the VANOS hardware quits, it's big dollars to fix.

Check for oil leaks anywhere around the VANOS actuators (at the front of the engine) for signs of oil weeping, which can be (but isn't always) the first sign of trouble.