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Holden Commodore Used Car Review

The Holden Commodore emerged in 1978 as the successor to the Kingswood, and the large car became Australia's best-selling model for 15 consecutive years (between 1996 and2011).This is a record that may never be beaten. A mix of six and eight-cylinder engines in sedan, wagon as well as ute body styles formed a comprehensive Commodore range.. The fastest andmost powerful models sat under the HSV sub-brand. The Commodore's status as an Australian-built model ended in late 2017, though the nameplate has been carried over to an imported, German-built Opel/Vauxhall model - much like the very first-generation version of the Commodore.

Pros

Cons

  • Superb ride and handling of VE/VF models (2006-2017)
  • Spacious, well presented cabins
  • Powerful and great-sounding V8 engines
  • Multiple variants make for a great choice
  • Commonality on the road
  • Now imported rather than designed, engineered and built in Australia
  • Newer, 3.0-litre V6 lacked torque
  • No V8s or rear-wheel drive forthe new Commodore launched in 2018
This is general information and should not be relied on as purchasing advice.
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Top2011 Holden Commodore VE II MY12 SV6 Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 217907 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

Family Owned Business Est 1985 Free 3 Year Warranty Log books with Service History Full Car History Available and Clear of All Titles All Cars Mechanically Workshopped PLEASE NOTE WE ARE LOCATED IN 2132, SYDNEY, NSW

$10,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Croydon, NSW

Dealer used
11/05/2024

Top2013 HOLDEN Commodore SV6

  • 366338 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

SV6 WAGON DRIVES GREAT GOOD VALUE HERE WORTH THE TEST DRIVE REGO INC RWC INC STAMP DUTY INC CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE https://www.broombroom.au/ YES WE DO FINANCE FINANCE MADE EASY SELF EMPLOYED FINANCE LOW DOC FINANCE PENSIONER FINANCE SOLE PARENT FINANCE OUR LOW OVERHEADS = LOW PRICES TO YOU!!!!!!! YES WE WILL TRADE-IN Our price range of trucks and cars plus a team who are easy to deal with, will hopefully put the fun back into buying your next investment with us! With our big buying pow

$7,499 Drive Away^
Slacks Creek, QLD

Dealer used
11/05/2024

Top2011 Holden Commodore VE II MY12 SS V Sportwagon Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 218304 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 8 cyl 6.0L

We have over 300 good quality cars at unbeatable prices, Auto or Manual, SUV or Wagon, Coupe or Convertible, Sunroof , Hatch or Sedan, Petrol or Turbo Diesel, 4x4 or 4x2 All cars are workshop tested, and optional parts and labour warranties are available .• *Pension Finance Available (Single Parent Payments, Parenting Payment, Disability Pension) • *Fee Free, No Interest Loan for Vehicles That Can Be Paid Off with Simple Fortnightly for ppl on Government payments. • *Dealer Charges Apply. •

$26,995 Excl. Gov. Charges
Minchinbury, NSW

Dealer used
11/05/2024

Top2009 HOLDEN Commodore INTERNATIONAL AUTOMATIC WAGON

  • 223689 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

2009 HOLDEN Commodore INTERNATIONAL AUTOMATIC WAGON Perfect Car and Drives Absolutely beautiful It is Priced to Sell at $7999 Traveled only Kms. Comes With Black Leather Log Books 3 Set of Keys and 20 July Registration. THE CAR IS AVAILABLE IF YOU SEE THIS AD. PLEASE DONT SEND GENERIC MESSAGES. NO OFFERS BEFORE INSPECTING! VERY GOOD CONDITION, BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR Now at FOREVER Motors, LONG JETTY Good car drives great warranty and roadside assist available Come and see us for the

$7,999 Excl. Gov. Charges
Long Jetty, NSW

Dealer used
11/05/2024

Top2014 Holden Commodore VF MY14 SS V Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 117217 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 8 cyl 6.0L

2014 HOLDEN COMMODORE VF MY14 SS V GREY SEDAN 6L RWD Introducing the epitome of power and sophistication: the HOLDEN COMMODORE VF SSV. With its sleek design and commanding presence, this sedan is not just a mode of transportation, but a statement. Powered by a robust 6-liter engine and rear-wheel drive, it promises an exhilarating driving experience every time you hit the road. Its refined interior, adorned with luxurious touches, ensures comfort and style for both driver and passengers. W

$38,490 Excl. Gov. Charges
Littlehampton, SA

Dealer used
Yesterday

Top2006 Holden Commodore VZ MY06 SVZ Grey 4 Speed Automatic Sedan

  • 244727 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

2006 HOLDEN COMMODORE SV-Z AUTOMATIC FAMILY SEDAN^^* EVER POPULAR FAMILY SEDAN^* WORK-SHOP INSPECTED & TESTED^* FULL LEATHER TRIM^* ALLOY WHEELS^* VERY WELL MAINTAINED & LOOKED AFTER^* TRADE-INS WELCOME^^We have easy finance options available and will pay top dollar for your trade-in.^As a leading Toyota dealership located 10 minutes from Perth, we have an extensive range of quality pre-owned vehicles. Combined with our professional motoring advice, we provide an exceptional guest experience.^^

$7,864 Excl. Gov. Charges
Morley, WA

Dealer used
11/05/2024

2017 Holden Commodore VF SS Sedan 4dr Man 6sp 6.2 LS3 Grey Manual Sedan

  • 25973 km
  • Other
  • Manual
  • 8

We are located in Sydney just 20 minutes from the CBD however we can arrange competitively priced transport to anywhere in Australia and we are more than happy to go the extra mile with additional photographs a virtual tour of the car and a comprehensive description of the condition of this vehicle to give you extra peace of mind if you are unable to make it into our dealership. We welcome all trade-ins and finance enquiries. Let us offer you the Ultimate Dealership Experience. Call to book y

$49,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Granville, NSW

Dealer used
6 minutes ago

2012 series 2 Ve wagon. Z series

  • 151000 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

2012 series 2 VE wagon. Z series. 151,000kms. 2nd owners. Excellent condition, leather seats, air con, window tint, cruise control, sat nav, Bluetooth.

$14,000Negotiable
Warrnambool, VIC

11 minutes ago

2015 Holden Commodore VF MY15 SV6 Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 199011 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

Just came in to the yard is the 2015 Holden Commodore SV6 VF MY15 in beautiful GREEN. It has a powerful V6, 3.6 L engine and done 199xxx km on the clock with Logbook and service history. Drives well and comes with 3 mths rego, don't miss out. Welcome to Sunshine Autos. We have a huge range of premium quality cars from 5K onwards whether it is a Sedan or Hatch, SUV or Commercials, 4x4 or AWD, Petrol or Diesel. All our vehicles are provided with current Road Worthy Certificate,

$17,995 Excl. Gov. Charges
Minchinbury, NSW

Dealer used
36 minutes ago

2011 Holden Commodore VE II SV6 Thunder Grey 6 Speed Manual Utility

  • 195580 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

HOLDEN COMMODORE VE II SV6 THUNDER GREY UTILITY 3.6L RWD UNLEASH THE THUNDER. THIS SEDAN BOASTS A SLEEK DESIGN. SPACIOUS INTERIOR, LOADED WITH MODERN FEATURES. A COMBINATION OF STYLE AND PERFORMANCE THAT'S READY TO HIT THE ROAD. YOUR TICKET TO A THRILLING DRIVING EXPERIENCE. ALL OUR PRE-OWNED VEHICLES COME COMPLETE WITH AN EXTENSIVE PRE-SALE INSPECTION >>> RWC INCL >>> REGISTRATION >>> ALL TRANSFERS >>> FREE DELIVERY (COND APPLY) >>> WARRANTIE

$19,999 Drive Away^
Wendouree, VIC

Dealer used
41 minutes ago

2017 HOLDEN COMMODORE SV6 6 SP AUTOMATIC 4D SEDAN, 5 seats VF II MY17

$21,000Negotiable
Bonnyrigg Heights, NSW

2 hours ago

2013 Holden Commodore VE II MY12.5 Z Series Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 128197 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

If you are interested in any of our vehicles please don’t hesitate to enquire as we will be happy to answer any questions and explain the nature of the sales moving forward. We can also offer virtual tours via video link to view our vehicles. Anyone in Gippsland region; we have a contact point available. Please enquire on your chosen vehicle and we will make the necessary arrangements. ALL PRICES INCLUDE ROADWORTHY CERTIFICATE AND STAMP DUTY - DRIVE AWAY NO MORE TO PAY!!!!

$14,500 Drive Away^
Pakenham, VIC

Dealer used
2 hours ago

2011 Holden Commodore VE II Omega Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 175775 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

W H Y U S ? Y O U R P R E M I E R C H O I C E F O R V E H I C L E S ! - F L E X I B I L I T Y : We will bring the car and our expert service to you. - W I D E S E L E C T I O N : Access over 300 R E D B O O K C E R T I F I E D 1 vehicles, ensuring the perfect find for every taste with confidence. - 1 2 M o n t h s W A R R A N T Y : 12 Months Reliance Warranty offers limited cover for major components - P E R S O N A L I S E D F I N A N C E : Tailored f

Contact Dealer for Price
Pakenham, VIC

Dealer used
2 hours ago

2016 Holden Commodore VF II Evoke Prussian Steel 6 Speed Automatic Sportswagon

  • 171809 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

We have a team of experienced staff only too happy to assist in your new purchase. We have been a family owned and operated business since 2001. Have a trade in? Fantastic we pay more. Flexible Finance options available TAP. Australia wide warranty cover from 1 to 5 years are also available (conditions apply). Our transport options can deliver directly to your door Australia wide.(some conditions apply) Yes we are an approved member of the motor trader's association (MTA) Our dealersh

$12,999 Excl. Gov. Charges
Blacktown, NSW

Dealer used
2 hours ago

2011 HOLDEN Commodore SS-V

  • 144901 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 8 cyl 6.0L

We have just taken delivery of this fantastic example of the ever popular 2011 Holden Commodore VE II SS-V Redline Sportwagon Sports Automatic 6.0i. Finished in Holden's Alto Grey over Black Leather Interior this VE SS V REDLINE Sportwagon looks awesome and is well complimented sitting on a set of 19'' Blacked out Super Sports Wheels with upgraded Pedders Suspension. This REDLINE Sportwagon also comes with 2 Keys and the Original Log Books as Factory Delivered when new and features a Fantastic

$26,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Auburn, NSW

Dealer used
3 hours ago

2011 Holden Commodore VE II SV6 Grey 6 Speed Automatic Sedan

  • 235112 km
  • Other
  • Auto
  • 6

FREE EXTRAS: ***15 MONTHS WARRANTY WITH *** ***24/7 ROADSIDE ASSIST AUSTRALIA WIDE ON ADVERTISED PRICE WITH UNLIMITED KM'S AND CLAIMS *** FAST and EASY FINANCE same day approvals and delivery t.a.p *** Get Pre-Approved here: http://www.southeastfinance.com.au/m1-used-cars/ Cash *** / Card *** / Finance *** ACCEPTED *** ***Message Us! Or call us *** Send a car or finance inquiry message Call us?? O4O2 855 855 Visit Us 3413 Pacific Highway, Slacks Creek QLD 4127 ***Get Pre-Approved htt

$11,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Slacks Creek, QLD

Dealer used
4 hours ago

2015 Holden Commodore VF MY15 SS Grey 6 Speed Manual Sedan

  • 130648 km
  • Sedan
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 6.0L

For Sale: Used 2015 Holden Commodore Vf My15 Ss Sedan 4Dr Man 6Sp 6.0I Looking for a powerful and reliable sedan that doesnt compromise on style? Look no further than this 2015 Holden Commodore Vf My15 Ss Sedan. With an impressive 6.0L engine, this car will give you the thrill of the open road like no other. This sedan comes with a full log book service history, ensuring that it has been well-maintained and is ready to hit the road with its new owner. With an odometer reading of 131,000 km, t

$33,886 Drive Away^
Ipswich, QLD

Dealer used
4 hours ago

2015 Holden Commodore VF MY15 SV6 Storm Prussian Steel 6 Speed Automatic Sedan

  • 113215 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

2015 Holden Commodore VF MY15 SV6 Storm Sedan 4dr Spts Auto 6sp 3.6i Sports Automatic, Petrol - Unleaded ULP, 6 Cyl, 5 Seats PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY ENQUIRY!! FAQ OUR LOCATION? Located at MEGAMART COMPLEX, SOUTH-EAST OF MELBOURNE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, City of the Shire of Cardinia, Still unsure where? Please G@@gle MEGAMART STILL AVAILABLE? Yes! If the advertisement is still up, it's available for purchase. BUY WITH CONFIDENCE! We're rated at 4.9 Star on G@@gle and Face

$24,990 Drive Away^
Pakenham, VIC

Dealer used
4 hours ago

2004 Holden Commodore VZ Acclaim Martini Grey 4 Speed Automatic Sedan

  • 221588 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

Looking for a reliable and spacious sedan? Look no further than the 2004 Holden Commodore VZ Acclaim in Martini Metallic. This beauty comes equipped with a range of features including alloy wheels, air conditioning, cruise control, and a CD player. With over 200,000 km on the odometer, this sedan is ready to hit the road with you behind the wheel. Feel safe and secure with ABS brakes, airbags, traction control, and electronic stability control. The comfortable interior includes adjustable stee

$4,995 Excl. Gov. Charges
Minchinbury, NSW

Dealer used
4 hours ago

2015 Holden Commodore VF II MY16 SV6 Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 159457 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

WELL MAINTAINED and Just Serviced by Our Highly Trained Techs! Comes Packed with Features including Front and Rear Sensors with a Reverse Camera, Alloy Wheels, Touchscreen Media Control System, Electric Parking Brake, Multifunction Steering Wheel, Dual Zone Climate Control, Cruise Control and Plenty More... Get in Quick at this Price it Will Not Last Long!!! Short on Time? Buy Online!!! We offer a complete purchase option from the comfort of your home via our easy, stress-free online purchasi

$18,850 Excl. Gov. Charges
Myaree, WA

Dealer used
4 hours ago

2005 HOLDEN Commodore EXECUTIVE

  • 185260 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

VZ DRIVES WELL AUTO REGO INCLUDED RWC INCLUDED STAMP DUTY INCLUDED CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE https://www.broombroom.au/ YES WE DO FINANCE FINANCE MADE EASY SELF EMPLOYED FINANCE LOW DOC FINANCE PENSIONER FINANCE SOLE PARENT FINANCE OUR LOW OVERHEADS = LOW PRICES TO YOU!!!!!!! YES WE WILL TRADE-IN Our price range of trucks and cars plus a team who are easy to deal with, will hopefully put the fun back into buying your next investment with us! With our big buying power and high turnover of ve

$5,999 Drive Away^
Slacks Creek, QLD

Dealer used
4 hours ago

2011 Holden Commodore VE II MY12 Omega Sportwagon Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 206656 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

HOLDEN COMMODORE VE ** EQUIPE SPORTSWAGON ** 3.0L 6 SPEED AUTOMATIC ** FAST FINANCE APPROVALS T's & C's APPLY - WARRANTY & TRADE IN OPTIONS AVAILABLE ** Test Drive Today ** Perth Auto Centre: All Hours Inquiries ** Perth Auto Centre are Delighted to Present this Stunning International Sportswagon, Huge Credit to the Previous Owner. Australian Made Sportswagon Finished in Stunning Metallic ** They don't make them Anymore, Secure your one while they are still around. ** Come Down an

$11,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Osborne Park, WA

Dealer used
5 hours ago

2010 Holden Commodore INTERNATIONAL

  • 218921 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Yes, this vehicle is available. Please call zero four one nine three six two zero eight seven. We are located 15 mins from the eastlink tunnels, in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. Please look at pic 2 for our number. Just arrived and drives great. Holden Commodore VE International wagon, V6 automatic with the safety of driver, passenger and side airbags, ABS brakes, power steering, air conditioning, cruise control, electric windows, cd player, remote central locking, rear park sensors and fac

$8,490 Drive Away^
Lilydale, VIC

Dealer used
5 hours ago

2012 HOLDEN COMMODORE SV6 6 SP AUTOMATIC 4D SEDAN

  • 64700 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

If Ad is still up its still available. 2012 Holden VE Series 2 SV6 Sedan, 3.6L 210kW/360Nm, 6 speed automatic, great to drive. One owner, only 64000 kilometres, with full service history. Very clean everywhere, always been garaged and cleaned. Alto Grey, black/grey interior. Never been in an accident. Bluetooth, cruise control, touchscreen, reversing camera, dual zone climate control, 18" alloys, towbar, tyres approx 50% worn, 2 keys, lower front bumper guard, leather gear knob, driving light

$19,500Negotiable
Sunnybank Hills, QLD

5 hours ago

2015 Holden Commodore VF MY15 Evoke Grey 6 Speed Automatic Sportswagon

  • 187839 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Welcome to Cars Connect, Check out our NEW website www.carsconnect.com.au fresh WHOLESALE cars daily!!!!! BUYING OR SELLING ?? Welcome to CARS CONNECT , wholesalers in the motor industry. We pride our selves in helping people SELL or PURCHASE their next new or pre-loved motor vehicle. Our wholesale stock range consists mainly of freshly TRADED vehicles DIRECT from our local franchise dealer network , the vehicles we have advertised direct to public are hand picked and priced to move quick

$16,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Edgeworth, NSW

Dealer used
6 hours ago

2013 Holden Commodore VF MY14 International Grey 6 Speed Automatic Sedan

  • 255557 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

Looking for a reliable and stylish sedan that has all the features you need? Look no further than this 2013 Holden Commodore International VF MY14. With a sleek grey exterior and black interior, this car is sure to turn heads wherever you go. This Commodore comes equipped with a 3.0L 6 cylinder engine and a 6-speed automatic transmission, providing you with a smooth and powerful driving experience. Whether you're running errands around town or going on a road trip, this car has everything you

$11,496 Drive Away^
Traralgon, VIC

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2015 Holden Commodore VF MY15 Evoke Sportwagon Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Wagon

  • 254328 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

*** AUTOMATIC *** V6 COMMODORE WAGON *** VERY POPULAR *** WELL MAINTAINED *** TIDY THROUGHOUT *** TOP VALUE *** DRIVES GREAT *** DONT DELAY TAKE IT TODAY *** *** CCC = BETTER CARS FOR LE$$ *** WE HAVE 200+ VEHICLES $4999 - $19999 *** ALL 200+ VEHICLES COME WITH A WARRANTY *** ALL 200+ VEHICLES ARE THE BEST VALUE ON THE MARKET *** ALL 200+ PRICES ARE DRIVE-AWAY NO MORE TO PAY - (VERY CONVENIENT)! *** FAST FINANCE ARRANGED ON-SITE OR OVER-THE-PHONE (CLEVER & PROFESSIONAL

$9,999 Drive Away^
Rocklea, QLD

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2013 Holden Commodore VE II MY12.5 SV6 Z Series Grey 6 Speed Sports Automatic Sedan

  • 161752 km
  • Sedan
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

**** JUST ARRIVED *** PRICED TO SELL **** THIS 2013 HOLDEN COMMODORE SV6 Z-SERIES VE SERIES II IS A 3.6L PETROL AUTOMATIC SEDAN With features including: - 18 INCH ALLOYS - REAR PARKING SENSORS - REVERSE CAMERA - PARTIAL LEATHER INTERIOR - BLUETOOTH - CRUISE CONTROL - FULL SERVICE HISTORY Why our dealership? We are the LARGEST USED CAR DEALERSHIP in Canberra. With over 350 USED CARS to choose from. We are a FAMILY OWNED multi franchise de

$15,800 Excl. Gov. Charges
Phillip, ACT

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2012 Holden Ute VE II MY12.5 SV6 Z SERIES EXTENDE Grey Manual Utility

  • 152999 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 6 cyl 3.6L

2012 Holden Ute VE II MY12.5 SV6 Z SERIES EXTENDE Grey Manual Utility

$20,733 Drive Away^
Toowoomba, QLD

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2012 Holden Commodore VE II MY12 Equipe Grey 6 Speed Automatic Sportswagon

  • 84360 km
  • Wagon
  • Auto
  • 6 cyl 3.0L

only 84,000 kms. log books. local mature owner. long rego. just serviced. four new quality tyres. oustanding condition. hard to find like this. Feel free to drop in and see this vehicle at 129 Herries Street,Toowoomba or call Shane on for more information and to arrange a test drive. Trade ins welcome. Cars Galore is a locally owned car dealership that has been operating for over 25 years supplying quality used cars to Toowoomba, Warwick, Dalby, Stanthorpe, Gatton, Lockyer V

$19,900 Drive Away^
Toowoomba, QLD

Dealer used
8 hours ago

Overview of the Holden Commodore

Overview of the Holden Commodore

The Holden Commodore emerged in 1978 as the successor to the Kingswood, and the large car became Australia's best-selling model for 15 consecutive years (between 1996 and2011).This is a record that may never be beaten.

A mix of six and eight-cylinder engines in sedan, wagon as well as ute body styles formed a comprehensive Commodore range.. The fastest andmost powerful models sat under the HSV sub-brand.

The Commodore's status as an Australian-built model ended in late 2017, though the nameplate has been carried over to an imported, German-built Opel/Vauxhall model - much like the very first-generation version of the Commodore.

HOLDEN COMMODORE GENERATIONS (SINCE 1997)

1997-2007

2006-2013

2013-2017

2018-present

RUNNING COSTS

Fuel Consumption (VF generation models)

3.0L 6cyl: 8.3-8.6 litres per 100km

3.6L 6cyl: 9.0-9.3 litres per 100km

6.2L V8: 12.6-12.9 litres per 100km

= Highly economical.

= Good economy.

= Average fuel use.

= Heavy consumption.

Servicing

SIMILAR MODELS TO HOLDEN COMMODORE

WHAT TO LOOK OUT FOR: HOLDEN COMMODORE (VF, 2013 ONWARDS)

On V8 versions, start the car from cold and listen for rattles and ticks from the engine. If they're present, you're probably looking at a car with dud lifters.

The V8 can sometimes ooze a little oil from the rear-main seal. Find where the car is normally parked and check the ground for oily spots.

The six-speed automatic gearbox shouldn't clunk into gear or slur its shifts. And look for a dirty big tow-bar that suggests the thing has hauled huge loads at some point.

A lot of fleets bought the base-model Commodore, too, and while they offer cheap motoring, don't buy an ex-fleet car by accident.