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Toyota LandCruiser Used Car Review

When 13 Toyota LandCruisers were imported to Australia in 1958 to serve as workhorses on the Snowy Hydro Scheme and various mining and construction projects, the off-roader's reputation for robustness and ruggedness was born. Today, it's still considered by many to be the 4WD benchmark, despite the latest-generation LandCruiser - the 200 series - having been on sale since 2007. Its mighty size allows it to carry vast amounts of cargo or up to eight people in GXL, VX or flagship Sahara form. Performance comes from a choice of V8s - the more powerful 4.6-litre petrol or more fuel efficient and torquier 4.5-litre turbo diesel.

Pros

Cons

  • Supreme off-road ability; comfortable on the road
  • Vast dealer network great for spares throughout Australia
  • Effortless, refined V8 turbo diesel
  • Cavernous cabin; most versions seat up to eight people
  • Huge size can make it feel cumbersome in cities/towns
  • Expensive pricing, with top-spec Sahara above $100K
  • Thirsty petrol V8
  • 200-series getting old, having launched in 2007
This is general information and should not be relied on as purchasing advice.
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Top2011 TOYOTA LANDCRUISER WORKMATE (4x4) 5 SP MANUAL C/CHAS

$48,000
Manilla, NSW

28/04/2024

Top2019 TOYOTA LandCruiser WORKMATE (4x4)

  • 144659 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

2019 TOYOTA LANDCRUISER WORKMATE VDJ79R Take a gander at this fully equipped 2019 Toyota LandCruiser VDJ79R Single Cab! This rig is a real head-turner, boasting all the top-notch features you could ask for. Equipped with a mighty lift kit and a SAFARI snorkel, it's primed for off-road adventures. Plus, we've thrown in electric towing mirrors and Redarc Tow-Pro electric brakes for seamless towing experiences. But that's not all - this beauty comes complete with side steps, an aluminum light tr

$64,999 Excl. Gov. Charges
Welshpool, WA

Dealer used
30/04/2024

Top2010 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R 09 Upgrade GXL (4x4) Grey 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 292535 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Fantastic truck, tray has been freshly powdercoated, new clutch just installed, looks and drives like a dream.2 Inch Tough Dog lift, Toyota Steel bullbar, HardKorr BZRX Driving lights, Steel scrub rails and side steps. Great truck, these are very popular and wont last!

$51,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
McGraths Hill, NSW

Dealer used
30/04/2024

Top2012 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ76R MY10 GXL Merlot Red 5 Speed Manual Wagon

  • 107328 km
  • SUV
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

2012 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ76R GXL Looking for the ultimate off-road adventure companion? Look no further! This 2012 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ76R GXL is packed with features to tackle any terrain and ensure a comfortable journey, whether you're cruising on the highway or exploring rugged trails. Key Features: ** Logbook with Service History: Meticulously maintained with a comprehensive service history, ensuring peace of mind for the new owner. ** Reverse Camera & Bluetooth: Maneuver with ease

$67,776 Excl. Gov. Charges
Maddington, WA

Dealer used
30/04/2024

Top2017 Toyota Landcruiser LC70 VDJ79R MY17 Workmate (4x4) French Vanilla 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 92399 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

** Genuine Toyota Premium Steel Bull bar fitted with driving lights ** ** Toyota Single Cab Style side tray fitted ** ** Black Off road steel rims with Near new tyres fitted ** ** Full-Service history ** We understand that everyone is an individual, we are here to find a vehicle to suit your individual needs. Whether you are looking for a pre-owned Ute, 4x4, SUV, Van or the latest Hybrid model. Please do not hesitate to contact us we understand that in tough times we have to change and adap

$63,989 Excl. Gov. Charges
Melville, WA

Dealer used
10 hours ago

Top2016 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 194261 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

2016 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis Diff lock(s) Bluetooth System 16in Alloy Wheels ABS (Antilock Brakes) Steel Bull Bar LED Driving Lights Snorkel Engine Immobiliser Side Steps Central Locking - Remote/Keyless Spare Wheel - Full Size Alloy Wheel Long Range Fuel Tank Steel Dropside Tray / Steel Floor Towbar PLUS LOADS MORE, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A GREAT, DEPENDABLE VEHICLE THEN YOU CANT LOOK PAST THIS ONE, THIS WILL NOT LAST LONG !! FIRST IN BEST DRESSED, ASK

$69,990 Drive Away^
Bungalow, QLD

Dealer used
8 hours ago

2010 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY10 Workmate White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 240930 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

BE QUICK IT WON'T LAST - 4 POST BULLBAR WITH DOUBLE RAILS & STEPS - HEAVY DUTY TOWBAR - DUAL TANKS - SNORKEL - STEEL TRAY WITH STEEL FLOOR - COLD AIR - UHF RADIO & ANTENNA - GOOD DRIVING LIGHTS - COLD AIR - POWER STEERING COMES WITH ROADWORTHY CERTIFICATE & HAS BE FRESHLY SERVICED READY TO ROLL!! GOOD SOLID WORK TRUCK CALL NOW OR IT WILL BE GONE WE CAN TAKE A TRADE & APPRAISE IT OVER THE PHONE WE CAN ARRANGE DELIVERY TO YOUR DOOR WE CAN ARRANGE FINANCE MOST OF ALL WE MAKE IT EASY CONTAC

$49,997 Excl. Gov. Charges
Biloela, QLD

Dealer used
10 minutes ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 147797 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Big Rig. Plenty spent on quality upgrade's that include barwork, suspension upgrade, steel dropside tray, custom rims and upgraded tyre's. Fully workshop approved. Priced to sell. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our vehicles have been independently mechanically inspected and road tested for your peace of mind. With over 3000 late-model quality passenger and commercial vehicles av

$77,384 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
25 minutes ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 113686 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

This 70 series Workmate Landcruiser is the perfect choice for buyers looking to secure a hard-working and impressively capable commercial 4WD with unmatched reliability, at an attractive price. This example has been kitted out to mine-spec standards, and it boasts a factory-fitted black bullbar, and a snorkel, plus top mounted safety lights, steel wheels clad in all-terrain tyres, and a large drop-side tray with a rear tow bar capable of pulling up to 3.5 Tonnes. On the inside, amenities like m

$72,580 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
30 minutes ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 91160 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Durable and practical, with all the accessories needed for on-site work. This 2018 70 Series LandCruiser provides buyers with a superb commercial 4WD, with low kilometres on the clock. It presents beautifully both inside and out, and it comes equipped with a heavy-duty bullbar, and a snorkel, as well as high-vis decals and top mounted safety lights. There is a large drop side tray fitted, and the tow bar at the back is rated for up to 3.5 Tonnes, perfect for all your hauling needs. The interior

$72,980 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
55 minutes ago

2019 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 101960 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

MINE SPEC AND READY FOR WORK! Superb example, very low kms, still under NC Warranty. Very clean and tidy, heavy duty steel tray, fully workshop approved, priced to sell immediately and will not last! Mine Spec Generic Note- Different sites have different vehicle requirements when it comes to the spec. Please do your due diligence prior to purchase. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers.

$81,988 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
2 hours ago

2019 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 79180 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

This 70 Series LandCruiser comes is a durable commercial 4x4, with everything you need for on-site work. It still presents well both inside and out, and it has been well maintained by its previous owner with the original service logbook provided for added peace of mind. Power comes from a 4.5L V8 turbo-diesel, which is paired to a 5-speed manual gearbox with dual-range 4WD. It comes equipped with a heavy-duty bullbar, and both high vis decals and top mounted safety lights, as well as a snorkel,

$75,980 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
2 hours ago

2017 Toyota Landcruiser LC70 VDJ79R MY17 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 121036 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Fully equipped to take on site, this 70 Series Workmate Landcruiser has been well maintained by its previous owner and comes workshop inspected with low kilometres on the clock. Features include factory black bullbar, snorkel, and top mounted safety lights. It also comes with steel wheels with all terrain tyres fitted, and a large drop side tray with a tow bar at the back that has a capacity of up to 3.5 Tonnes for all your hauling needs. The interior comes with all-weather vinyl seats, and mob

$63,980 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
2 hours ago

2020 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 124053 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

EXCEPTIONAL EXAMPLE! One private owner with service history, immaculate condition, ex south australain vehicle with no red dust, steel bull bar, steel tray, alloy wheels and more, inspection will impress! Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our vehicles have been independently mechanically inspected and road tested for your peace of mind. With over 3000 late-model quality passenger a

$70,977 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
3 hours ago

2019 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 97308 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

MINESPEC (subject to site requirements) Immediate delivery. Very good example. One owner from new optioned with a steel bull bar and steel ROPS tray. Fully workshop approved. Priced to sell.

$65,965 Excl. Gov. Charges
Jandakot, WA

Dealer used
3 hours ago

2020 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 96238 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

This 70 series Workmate Landcruiser would make a great choice for potential buyers in the market for a dependable commercial workhorse with unshakeable reliability and impressive off-road ability. This mine-spec example has been well maintained by its previous owner and comes fully equipped to get the job done. Features include a factory black bullbar, a snorkel, and a top mounted safety lights. It also comes with high-vis decals, steel wheels with all terrain tyres fitted, and a large drop sid

$76,980 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
3 hours ago

2019 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 130435 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

MINE SPEC AND READY FOR WORK! Still under NC Warranty, Very clean and tidy example, fully workshop approved, fresh tyres, heavy duty steel tray, bullbar, icy aircond, priced to sell immediately and will not last! Mine Spec Generic Note- Different sites have different vehicle requirements when it comes to the spec. Please do your due diligence prior to purchase. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australi

$77,988 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
3 hours ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 112904 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Ripper one owner Dual cab travelled low kms. Big $$$ spent on quality upgrade's that include Bull bar and scrub rails, suspension upgrade, custom rims and tyres, steel gen toyota tray. Smooth 4.5L V8 engine. Fully workshop approved. Priced to sell. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our vehicles have been independently mechanically inspected and road tested for your peace of mind. W

$82,984 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
5 hours ago

2017 Toyota Landcruiser LC70 VDJ79R MY17 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 102468 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

MINE SPEC AND READY FOR WORK! VERY LOW KMS! Very clean and tidy example, fully workshop approved, fresh tyres, heavy duty steel tray, bullbar, icy aircond, priced to sell immediately and will not last!Mine Spec Generic Note- Different sites have different vehicle requirements when it comes to the spec. Please do your due diligence prior to purchase. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers

$71,988 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
5 hours ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 118054 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Mine spec and ready for work very clean and tidy example with fresh Tyres, heavy duty steel tray, bull bar and much more. Fully workshop approved. Priced to sell immediately and will not last! Mine Spec Generic Note- Different sites have different vehicle requirements when it comes to the spec. Please do your due diligence prior to purchase. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our ve

$68,988 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
5 hours ago

2016 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ76R Workmate White Manual Wagon

  • 123595 km
  • SUV
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Introducing this absolute WORKHORSE of a 4X4.. The 76 Series Workmate stands head and shoulders above the rest as being the TOUGHEST, most RELIABLE, and most CAPABLE 4x4 you can get your hands on.. FULL SERVICE HISTORY.. Bulletproof 4.5L TURBO DIESEL V8 with a 5-speed MANUAL 4X4 gearbox.. Enhanced with a set of bullbar, roof racks with an ARB tray, LED spotlights, Superwinch X9 winch, tow bar, and a dual battery setup.. With Bluetooth connectivity and cruise control.. COME SEE IT TODAY.. FIRST

$58,888 Excl. Gov. Charges
Wangara, WA

Dealer used
6 hours ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 96220 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Mine spec and ready for work very clean and tidy example travelled very low kms.Fresh tyres, heavy duty steel tray, bull bar towbar uhf and much more. Fully Workshop approved, Priced to sell immediately and will not last! Mine Spec Generic Note- Different sites have different vehicle requirements when it comes to the spec. Please do your due diligence prior to purchase. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading

$70,988 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
6 hours ago

2018 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 132794 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

***NOT EX MINING OR RENTAL*** One owner from new with log book service history! Extremely clean and tidy and is a credit to the previous owner. Features upgraded Old Man Emu suspension and lift, genuine Toyota alloy tray, tow bar, Genuine Toyota bull bar with scrub rails and side steps, fully workshop approved! Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our vehicles have been independently

$74,995 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
6 hours ago

2013 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY13 Workmate Double Cab White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 256606 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Good condition this Toyota Landcruiser Workmate 4x4 5 speed manual workhorse has been well maintained by the previous owner and comes with books & service history. Fitted with Bull bar, LED spot lights, Snorkel, Under tray tool box, UHF radio, Redarc Electric brakes and Tow bar with 3,500kg braked capacity tow rating. Other features include: Rubber floor mats CD player Bluetooth Driver/ Passenger airbags Air conditioning Toyota tough Dual cab with tray, will impress. We welcome your enquir

$58,500 Excl. Gov. Charges
Mount Gambier, SA

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2019 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL (4x4) Grey 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 62568 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Stunning 10/10 79 series Landcruiser, loaded with high end ARB accessories and backed by a complete logbook service history!! ** Old Man Emu BP51 GVM upgrade to 3950kg ** Aftermarket/factory extras: - 17-inch PCOR alloy wheels - BF Goodrich KO2 A/T tyres - 2 inch Old Man Emu suspension upgrade with BP51 remote reservoir shocks (3950kg GVM) - Colour coded ARB Summit bulbar - Colour coded ARB Summit sidesteps - Colour coded ARB Summit scrub bars - WARN Zeon Platinum 10,000lb win

$119,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Woodridge, QLD

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2017 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL Double Cab Silver 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 66050 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

1 Owner, LOW K's, IMMACULATE, FULLY OPTIONED & READY TO DRIVE AWAY! Experience the perfect blend of luxury and functionality in this stunning 2017 Toyota Landcruiser. Despite a significant odometer reading of 66,050 kilometres, this manual powerhouse has been meticulously maintained to offer you unparalleled performance, strength and reliability. Its rugged charm is enhanced by a host of modern features including Cruise Control, ensuring a smooth and comfortable journey every time. Some

$112,990 Drive Away^
Southport, QLD

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2016 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL Double Cab White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 111969 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

This 79 series is an absolute weapon! Packed full of so much! A quality steel flat tray with a wooden floor. Custom leather interior with gorgeous sports seats and door card inserts. Aftermarket center console makes this car an absolute dream! On the outside it doesn't finish, ARB bull bar, side steps and brush bars. Roof platform, snorkel, aftermarket side mirrors and 12,000 pound Carbon winch. This Landcruiser ute is the ultimate 4x4! For an easy and hassle-free purchase experience, contac

$94,990 Excl. Gov. Charges
Derwent Park, TAS

Dealer used
7 hours ago

2014 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY12 Update Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 164642 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

Great buying here! Low kms, GVM upgraded, EFS lift, rear airbag suspension, full barwork, upgraded wheels with new tyres, heavy duty ROPs steel tray, tow bar, dual batteries and there will be more. Fully workshop approved, priced to sell immediately and will not last! Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our vehicles have been independently mechanically inspected and road tested for y

$57,988 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
8 hours ago

2019 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R MY18 Workmate (4x4) White 5 Speed Manual Double Cab Chassis

  • 119397 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

MINE SPEC AND READY FOR WORK! Superb example, very low kms. Very clean and tidy, heavy duty steel tray, fully workshop approved, priced to sell immediately and will not last! Mine Spec Generic Note- Different sites have different vehicle requirements when it comes to the spec. Please do your due diligence prior to purchase. Trade-ins welcome! We have competitive, same-day finance options and comprehensive protection plans from leading Australian providers. Our vehicles have been i

$74,984 Excl. Gov. Charges
Bentley, WA

Dealer used
8 hours ago

2016 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis

  • 194261 km
  • Ute
  • Manual
  • 8 cyl 4.5L

2016 Toyota Landcruiser VDJ79R GXL White 5 Speed Manual Cab Chassis Diff lock(s) Bluetooth System 16in Alloy Wheels ABS (Antilock Brakes) Steel Bull Bar LED Driving Lights Snorkel Engine Immobiliser Side Steps Central Locking - Remote/Keyless Spare Wheel - Full Size Alloy Wheel Long Range Fuel Tank Steel Dropside Tray / Steel Floor Towbar PLUS LOADS MORE, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A GREAT, DEPENDABLE VEHICLE THEN YOU CANT LOOK PAST THIS ONE, THIS WILL NOT LAST LONG !! FIRST IN BEST DRESSED, ASK

$69,990 Drive Away^
Bungalow, QLD

Dealer used
8 hours ago

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Overview of the Toyota Landcruiser

Overview of the Toyota Landcruiser

When 13 Toyota LandCruisers were imported to Australia in 1958 to serve as workhorses on the Snowy Hydro Scheme and various mining and construction projects, the off-roader's reputation for robustness and ruggedness was born.

Today, it's still considered by many to be the 4WD benchmark, despite the latest-generation LandCruiser - the 200 series - having been on sale since 2007.

Its mighty size allows it to carry vast amounts of cargo or up to eight people in GXL, VX or flagship Sahara form. Performance comes from a choice of V8s - the more powerful 4.6-litre petrol or more fuel efficient and torquier 4.5-litre turbo diesel.

TOYOTA LANDCRUISER GENERATIONS (SINCE 1998)

1998-2007

2007-present

RUNNING COSTS

Fuel Consumption

4.6L V8 petrol: 13.4 litres per 100km

4.5L V8 turbo diesel: 9.5 litres per 100k

= Highly economical.

= Good economy.

= Average fuel use.

= Heavy consumption.

Servicing

SIMILAR MODELS TO TOYOTA LANDCRUISER

WHAT TO LOOK OUT FOR: TOYOTA LANDCRUISER

V8 diesel defines the latter-day Toyota LandCruiser, but early examples did give owners a few headaches. The biggest problem reported was that the engine had an appetite for oil between oil changes. Running changes were made by Toyota, so the later the build date, the better.

Electronics were also mounted relatively low in the engine bay, so deep water crossings could prove costly. Find out how the car has been used.

Speaking of which, the automatic transmission in the 200 Series meant the big Toyota was a good tow-car, though try to gauge how much load-hauling it has done. Is the tow-bar fitted, for instance, rated for huge loads?

The fact that the Toyota LandCruiser was so good off-road also means that many have led hard lives.

Be wary of examples with winches, mud tyres and panel damage. The flip-side is that many have never been off-road at all. They're the ones to buy second-hand.